http://www.tigersandstrawberries.com/2007/05/22/nina-planck-stirs-the-pot-vegans-get-steamed-film-at-eleven/ Fri, 19 Mar 2010 15:08:49 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.2 http://www.tigersandstrawberries.com/2007/05/22/nina-planck-stirs-the-pot-vegans-get-steamed-film-at-eleven/#comment-136600 Sun, 10 Jan 2010 22:08:35 +0000 http://www.tigersandstrawberries.com/2007/05/22/nina-planck-stirs-the-pot-vegans-get-steamed-film-at-eleven/#comment-136600 And friends get Your facts straight- the Indians/Hindus have dairy in their diet, usually raw or cultured. Not vegan. As a practitioner most of the vegans I see are struggling with their health, while trying to convince themselves they are "healthy" (having lost sight of just what that is- it does include emotional and mental states and neurosis). The issue here is UNTAINTED "real" food vs commercial industrial food, anyway. Stop picking on Nina and get educated by reading Nourishing Traditions, Gut and Psychology syndrome, and other books and studies along these lines. And friends get Your facts straight- the Indians/Hindus have dairy in their diet, usually raw or cultured. Not vegan. As a practitioner most of the vegans I see are struggling with their health, while trying to convince themselves they are “healthy” (having lost sight of just what that is- it does include emotional and mental states and neurosis). The issue here is UNTAINTED “real” food vs commercial industrial food, anyway. Stop picking on Nina and get educated by reading Nourishing Traditions, Gut and Psychology syndrome, and other books and studies along these lines.

]]> http://www.tigersandstrawberries.com/2007/05/22/nina-planck-stirs-the-pot-vegans-get-steamed-film-at-eleven/#comment-136597 Sun, 10 Jan 2010 22:02:32 +0000 http://www.tigersandstrawberries.com/2007/05/22/nina-planck-stirs-the-pot-vegans-get-steamed-film-at-eleven/#comment-136597 I think most of the posters are way too hard on Nina Planck, who has produced a book (2 now) to help turn the tide of ignorance and brainwashing our culture is drowning under and yes in the name of the "science" we have been force fed for decades. I cannot believe people are citing, for example, FDA pronouncements about raw milk- yes the people who gave us aspartame, to name just one out of hundreds of toxic additives. A lot of you just don't "get it" yet- check back 5-10 years from you, maybe you will. I think most of the posters are way too hard on Nina Planck, who has produced a book (2 now) to help turn the tide of ignorance and brainwashing our culture is drowning under and yes in the name of the “science” we have been force fed for decades. I cannot believe people are citing, for example, FDA pronouncements about raw milk- yes the people who gave us aspartame, to name just one out of hundreds of toxic additives. A lot of you just don’t “get it” yet- check back 5-10 years from you, maybe you will.

]]> http://www.tigersandstrawberries.com/2007/05/22/nina-planck-stirs-the-pot-vegans-get-steamed-film-at-eleven/#comment-127076 Thu, 15 Oct 2009 00:28:14 +0000 http://www.tigersandstrawberries.com/2007/05/22/nina-planck-stirs-the-pot-vegans-get-steamed-film-at-eleven/#comment-127076 It's me again. I wanted to comment on the raw milk thread. In Ohio, it is only illegal to sell raw milk for human consumption. I found this out when I purchased some raw goat's milk clearly labeled "not for human consumption." As the vendor said, "What you do with it when you leave the store is your business." It’s me again. I wanted to comment on the raw milk thread. In Ohio, it is only illegal to sell raw milk for human consumption. I found this out when I purchased some raw goat’s milk clearly labeled “not for human consumption.” As the vendor said, “What you do with it when you leave the store is your business.”

]]> http://www.tigersandstrawberries.com/2007/05/22/nina-planck-stirs-the-pot-vegans-get-steamed-film-at-eleven/#comment-127075 Thu, 15 Oct 2009 00:23:12 +0000 http://www.tigersandstrawberries.com/2007/05/22/nina-planck-stirs-the-pot-vegans-get-steamed-film-at-eleven/#comment-127075 Wow, I just google Nina Planck and look what I found. . .some thoughtful discussions of various diets, some ethic discussions, and some passionate people so concerned about cruelty that they don't realize that words can be crueler than anything else (at least to humans). All in all, a great discussion. I have one question, however, why is it that vegans who call meat eating cruel never qualify their opinions by exempting Kosher meat? And why do my fellow ominivores never seem to mention it either? Can it be that so many Americans are unaware that the Old Testament and the corresponding Kosher laws forbid cruelty to animals? That's why animals intended for kosher standards have to be slaughtered by specialy trained specialists. They are treated well and kept calm and are killed so quickly that their brains don't have time to react to their own deaths. I am not Jewish and I don't eat strictly kosher meat, but a milk allergy has given me the opportunity to learn quite a bit about Kosher laws. If I was concerned about cruelty to animals and the hormones and other evils of the modern meat market, I'd simply eat kosher. Wow, I just google Nina Planck and look what I found. . .some thoughtful discussions of various diets, some ethic discussions, and some passionate people so concerned about cruelty that they don’t realize that words can be crueler than anything else (at least to humans). All in all, a great discussion. I have one question, however, why is it that vegans who call meat eating cruel never qualify their opinions by exempting Kosher meat? And why do my fellow ominivores never seem to mention it either? Can it be that so many Americans are unaware that the Old Testament and the corresponding Kosher laws forbid cruelty to animals? That’s why animals intended for kosher standards have to be slaughtered by specialy trained specialists. They are treated well and kept calm and are killed so quickly that their brains don’t have time to react to their own deaths. I am not Jewish and I don’t eat strictly kosher meat, but a milk allergy has given me the opportunity to learn quite a bit about Kosher laws. If I was concerned about cruelty to animals and the hormones and other evils of the modern meat market, I’d simply eat kosher.

]]> http://www.tigersandstrawberries.com/2007/05/22/nina-planck-stirs-the-pot-vegans-get-steamed-film-at-eleven/#comment-52720 Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:31:32 +0000 http://www.tigersandstrawberries.com/2007/05/22/nina-planck-stirs-the-pot-vegans-get-steamed-film-at-eleven/#comment-52720 Wait a minute. The baby in question was born 3 months premature? No wonder he couldn't breast feed properly! If the child were Canadian, he could have been taken for free medical care anywhere. But unfortunately, he was American. So his parents wouldn't have been able to afford care the care he needed. Maybe he died of our medical system, as much as neglect by his parents. Wait a minute. The baby in question was born 3 months premature? No wonder he couldn’t breast feed properly! If the child were Canadian, he could have been taken for free medical care anywhere. But unfortunately, he was American. So his parents wouldn’t have been able to afford care the care he needed. Maybe he died of our medical system, as much as neglect by his parents.

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