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	<title>Comments on: PETA Says Meat Eating Is The Biggest Cause of Global Warming</title>
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		<title>By: Weekend Diversion: Mmmmmm&#8230; MEAT! &#124; Starts With A Bang!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Weekend Diversion: Mmmmmm&#8230; MEAT! &#124; Starts With A Bang!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 20:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Or, you can deny reality and be crazy. I&#8217;ve made my choice: [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Or, you can deny reality and be crazy. I&#8217;ve made my choice: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: stingray</title>
		<link>http://www.tigersandstrawberries.com/2007/10/22/peta-says-meat-eating-is-the-biggest-cause-of-global-warming/#comment-48296</link>
		<dc:creator>stingray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 22:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[1 peta does only one thing that is good
  to clean a mess that should be done
2 peta should be shut down for distorying and acts of terror

  is this a point of the end justify the means?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1 peta does only one thing that is good<br />
  to clean a mess that should be done<br />
2 peta should be shut down for distorying and acts of terror</p>
<p>  is this a point of the end justify the means?</p>
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		<title>By: comet</title>
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		<dc:creator>comet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 05:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Penn and Teller Episode is pure propaganda. They are just telling people what they want to believe. Among their many ridiculous assertions is that cruelty to animals in factory farms isn&#039;t morally wrong but rather it is &quot;aesthetically&quot; unappealing (see this video for some aesthetically unappealing examples: http://meat.org) . If that were the only dumb thing they said it would be enough to cause me to suspect every thing they said. Unfortunately they were just getting started.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Penn and Teller Episode is pure propaganda. They are just telling people what they want to believe. Among their many ridiculous assertions is that cruelty to animals in factory farms isn&#8217;t morally wrong but rather it is &#8220;aesthetically&#8221; unappealing (see this video for some aesthetically unappealing examples: <a href="http://meat.org" rel="nofollow">http://meat.org</a>) . If that were the only dumb thing they said it would be enough to cause me to suspect every thing they said. Unfortunately they were just getting started.</p>
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		<title>By: mujeresliebres</title>
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		<dc:creator>mujeresliebres</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 09:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Eight percent of the planet&#039;s population consuming 25 percent of the planet&#039;s resources.  Our consumption does far more to increase global warming than overpopulation.  If we actually want to change anything we need to address the inherent structural inequities within our own society and as to how our government and businesses interact with impoverished nations.

PETA is lame.  I find that people who so often are really concerned about animal rights don&#039;t give a damn about people and sometimes even the environment.  I&#039;ve known activists who don&#039;t care that soy is some of the worst monoculture around.  Or worse not care about the existence of sweatshops in the field.  Again I don&#039;t want animals abused, but to me humans are more important than animals.  That said I&#039;ve known some very engaged and intelligent animal rights activists (ones that disagree with my stance).  Some who support PETA for the role it played in making them aware of the issues.  And hell I support PETA&#039;s fur is murder campaign.  Fur for fashion is disgusting.

Oh and to one of the previous comments, on terrorism...PETA isn&#039;t breaking any law.  Freedom of speech isn&#039;t terrorism.  Stop getting info from Penn and Teller.

I loved your suggestions by the way.  Despite the need for collective action; people really do need to look at their individual choices.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eight percent of the planet&#8217;s population consuming 25 percent of the planet&#8217;s resources.  Our consumption does far more to increase global warming than overpopulation.  If we actually want to change anything we need to address the inherent structural inequities within our own society and as to how our government and businesses interact with impoverished nations.</p>
<p>PETA is lame.  I find that people who so often are really concerned about animal rights don&#8217;t give a damn about people and sometimes even the environment.  I&#8217;ve known activists who don&#8217;t care that soy is some of the worst monoculture around.  Or worse not care about the existence of sweatshops in the field.  Again I don&#8217;t want animals abused, but to me humans are more important than animals.  That said I&#8217;ve known some very engaged and intelligent animal rights activists (ones that disagree with my stance).  Some who support PETA for the role it played in making them aware of the issues.  And hell I support PETA&#8217;s fur is murder campaign.  Fur for fashion is disgusting.</p>
<p>Oh and to one of the previous comments, on terrorism&#8230;PETA isn&#8217;t breaking any law.  Freedom of speech isn&#8217;t terrorism.  Stop getting info from Penn and Teller.</p>
<p>I loved your suggestions by the way.  Despite the need for collective action; people really do need to look at their individual choices.</p>
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		<title>By: Emily Cartier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emily Cartier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 22:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Often the problem with getting food to people is infrastructure. In large portions of Africa, Asia and South America, there are dirt roads rather than gravel or paved ones. Dirt roads don&#039;t work well for transporting people or food. Gravel ones are better, since they resist weather some. Paved ones resist weather the best, but are very expensive to build.

The roads wouldn&#039;t be a big problem if there were waterways connecting towns. In most of the world, there aren&#039;t waterways though. That means transport is a hard problem. Pack animals work. Mountain bikes work. Walking works. Not much else does, and you can&#039;t carry much food that way. You can get loads of seed stock in on a dirt road, but I wouldn&#039;t bet on getting in enough food to feed a whole town.

Worse, because there are no roads, there&#039;s no way to set up water treatment or deliver useful tools like mosquito nets. Getting a traveling doctor to the town becomes a hard or impossible. Getting in enough vaccines? Not likely. And teachers need roads to travel on too...

It&#039;s a really nasty cycle. Since roads are so expensive to build, even a government with the best intentions might not build them. A government with evil intentions often does everything they can to oppose road building. PETA? Not a fan of roads. 

It&#039;s easy to forget how powerful a road is. And if you&#039;ve forgotten that roads *matter* in feeding people, it&#039;s easy to make really bad decisions when trying to help a poorer country.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Often the problem with getting food to people is infrastructure. In large portions of Africa, Asia and South America, there are dirt roads rather than gravel or paved ones. Dirt roads don&#8217;t work well for transporting people or food. Gravel ones are better, since they resist weather some. Paved ones resist weather the best, but are very expensive to build.</p>
<p>The roads wouldn&#8217;t be a big problem if there were waterways connecting towns. In most of the world, there aren&#8217;t waterways though. That means transport is a hard problem. Pack animals work. Mountain bikes work. Walking works. Not much else does, and you can&#8217;t carry much food that way. You can get loads of seed stock in on a dirt road, but I wouldn&#8217;t bet on getting in enough food to feed a whole town.</p>
<p>Worse, because there are no roads, there&#8217;s no way to set up water treatment or deliver useful tools like mosquito nets. Getting a traveling doctor to the town becomes a hard or impossible. Getting in enough vaccines? Not likely. And teachers need roads to travel on too&#8230;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a really nasty cycle. Since roads are so expensive to build, even a government with the best intentions might not build them. A government with evil intentions often does everything they can to oppose road building. PETA? Not a fan of roads. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s easy to forget how powerful a road is. And if you&#8217;ve forgotten that roads *matter* in feeding people, it&#8217;s easy to make really bad decisions when trying to help a poorer country.</p>
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