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		<title>By: Barbara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barbara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 03:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jim--I hear you. And yeah, I have had my arguments with other liberals (I consider myself liberal to the point that I might as well call myself a socialist, except I favor citizen&#039;s right to bear arms) over issues very similar to what you describe. I am of the opinion that there are times when submission will save your life, but most of the time, you are better off fighting, making noise, fighting some more and then fleeing. I taught my first daughter this, and plan to teach the little one the same thing. When your instincts tell you to fight or flee--listen to them. The gut knows--as I suspect you know, Jim.

Benjamin--your story brought a smile to me. I, too, once lived in an abusive situation and have been beaten and nearly killed by a spouse. (Not Zak, just so everyone knows--he helped get mw away from the abuser.) And I only wish that I had been able to flee to someone who had as much gumption as your grandmother. Actually, my Gram did have that much gumption--she&#039;d have done the same thing had my husband had the temerity to seek me out at her house, but he didn&#039;t. And besides, by the time I did flee, she had become too frail for pan-slinging.

But the story of your grandmother made me smile--thank you so much for sharing.

And better late than never!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim&#8211;I hear you. And yeah, I have had my arguments with other liberals (I consider myself liberal to the point that I might as well call myself a socialist, except I favor citizen&#8217;s right to bear arms) over issues very similar to what you describe. I am of the opinion that there are times when submission will save your life, but most of the time, you are better off fighting, making noise, fighting some more and then fleeing. I taught my first daughter this, and plan to teach the little one the same thing. When your instincts tell you to fight or flee&#8211;listen to them. The gut knows&#8211;as I suspect you know, Jim.</p>
<p>Benjamin&#8211;your story brought a smile to me. I, too, once lived in an abusive situation and have been beaten and nearly killed by a spouse. (Not Zak, just so everyone knows&#8211;he helped get mw away from the abuser.) And I only wish that I had been able to flee to someone who had as much gumption as your grandmother. Actually, my Gram did have that much gumption&#8211;she&#8217;d have done the same thing had my husband had the temerity to seek me out at her house, but he didn&#8217;t. And besides, by the time I did flee, she had become too frail for pan-slinging.</p>
<p>But the story of your grandmother made me smile&#8211;thank you so much for sharing.</p>
<p>And better late than never!</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Benjamin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 00:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A bit late to the post, but this made me smile. My own grandmother, who at the time was in her sixties and a rather petite woman, was in a similar situation. My aunt had an abusive husband and one day she came to my grandmother&#039;s house to escape him. He followed and broke the door down to get at her. Now my grandmother is from southern central Tennessee and she has big ole cast iron skillets for making fried chicken, biscuits &amp; gravy, and cornbread. She picked up her biggest skillet and started beating him with it. Blood was shed and he fled for his life. I think the only thing that saved him from a crushed skull was that she was so short and couldn&#039;t properly get at his head. 

He never bothered my aunt or grandmother ever again. :D]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A bit late to the post, but this made me smile. My own grandmother, who at the time was in her sixties and a rather petite woman, was in a similar situation. My aunt had an abusive husband and one day she came to my grandmother&#8217;s house to escape him. He followed and broke the door down to get at her. Now my grandmother is from southern central Tennessee and she has big ole cast iron skillets for making fried chicken, biscuits &amp; gravy, and cornbread. She picked up her biggest skillet and started beating him with it. Blood was shed and he fled for his life. I think the only thing that saved him from a crushed skull was that she was so short and couldn&#8217;t properly get at his head. </p>
<p>He never bothered my aunt or grandmother ever again. <img src='http://www.tigersandstrawberries.com/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 17:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Criminals favor easy targets.&quot;

I would amend that to say, predators favor targets who will not defend themselves.  It&#039;s helpful to try and put yourself in the shoes of a psychopathic predator (and psychopaths are at a generally constant percentage of the population): they have no empathy, are physiologically incapable of empathy, and truly enjoy watching you suffer.  That&#039;s difficult for people like us who feel others&#039; pain without having to think about it, but it&#039;s the only way we can come about finding a solution to this very personal problem.

The &quot;submission position&quot; was extremely popular in the 90s among liberal intellectuals who believed that owning of a handgun was the hallmark of brutal barbarism in American culture.  If an individual is well trained and ready to use a handgun in her self-defense, then might she be able to use it to preserve her life in the event of a violent attack?  If her would-be predatory murderers feared that she might have killed them, might they have moved on to a target that they thought was less likely to fight back?

(If a man wants to violently rape a woman, is it okay for her to shoot him, or should she submit to his demands?)

This is a lesson that more liberals are learning every day.  (Google John Henderson -- atlantanstogether.org)  The lesson is: your life and your livelihood are worth defending.  Violence ceases to be a &quot;social problem&quot; when you&#039;re looking down the barrel of the wrong end of a gun.  At that point, it&#039;s personal, not social, and it&#039;s about you, an individual whose life and livelihood are inherently worth saving from psychopathic predators.

It was the &quot;submit, be weak, don&#039;t fight back&quot; position that kept me from being a liberal in the 90s.  From the people that always claimed to be enlightened and superior, it was, to me, an obvious effort to be militantly stupid from a position of safety and prestige, from people whose greatest fear was the possibility of being humiliated among his peers.  I think their position was incredibly out-of-touch and elite, something the liberal class always claimed they were not.

Barbara, you clearly get it, and I laud you for it.  The liberals who don&#039;t get it tell me that I, a gay man, should submit and be weak to conservative rednecks who might want to kill me.  (pinkpistols.org)  Maybe that may help some liberals see why I don&#039;t see them as &quot;enlightened&quot; at all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Criminals favor easy targets.&#8221;</p>
<p>I would amend that to say, predators favor targets who will not defend themselves.  It&#8217;s helpful to try and put yourself in the shoes of a psychopathic predator (and psychopaths are at a generally constant percentage of the population): they have no empathy, are physiologically incapable of empathy, and truly enjoy watching you suffer.  That&#8217;s difficult for people like us who feel others&#8217; pain without having to think about it, but it&#8217;s the only way we can come about finding a solution to this very personal problem.</p>
<p>The &#8220;submission position&#8221; was extremely popular in the 90s among liberal intellectuals who believed that owning of a handgun was the hallmark of brutal barbarism in American culture.  If an individual is well trained and ready to use a handgun in her self-defense, then might she be able to use it to preserve her life in the event of a violent attack?  If her would-be predatory murderers feared that she might have killed them, might they have moved on to a target that they thought was less likely to fight back?</p>
<p>(If a man wants to violently rape a woman, is it okay for her to shoot him, or should she submit to his demands?)</p>
<p>This is a lesson that more liberals are learning every day.  (Google John Henderson &#8212; atlantanstogether.org)  The lesson is: your life and your livelihood are worth defending.  Violence ceases to be a &#8220;social problem&#8221; when you&#8217;re looking down the barrel of the wrong end of a gun.  At that point, it&#8217;s personal, not social, and it&#8217;s about you, an individual whose life and livelihood are inherently worth saving from psychopathic predators.</p>
<p>It was the &#8220;submit, be weak, don&#8217;t fight back&#8221; position that kept me from being a liberal in the 90s.  From the people that always claimed to be enlightened and superior, it was, to me, an obvious effort to be militantly stupid from a position of safety and prestige, from people whose greatest fear was the possibility of being humiliated among his peers.  I think their position was incredibly out-of-touch and elite, something the liberal class always claimed they were not.</p>
<p>Barbara, you clearly get it, and I laud you for it.  The liberals who don&#8217;t get it tell me that I, a gay man, should submit and be weak to conservative rednecks who might want to kill me.  (pinkpistols.org)  Maybe that may help some liberals see why I don&#8217;t see them as &#8220;enlightened&#8221; at all.</p>
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		<title>By: mac</title>
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		<dc:creator>mac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 21:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[....I&#039;ve thought of this before, the only weapons in my house are in the kitchen (since golf was given up). I use heavy French and German ware (yes, Le 
Creuset), but if an intruder entered and I was able to reach it, the weapon with the deadliest potential is a German schnitzel pounder...very heavy, perfectly balanced etc. It would be fatal! 

Sad we sometimes think like this...I am alone most of the time....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;.I&#8217;ve thought of this before, the only weapons in my house are in the kitchen (since golf was given up). I use heavy French and German ware (yes, Le<br />
Creuset), but if an intruder entered and I was able to reach it, the weapon with the deadliest potential is a German schnitzel pounder&#8230;very heavy, perfectly balanced etc. It would be fatal! </p>
<p>Sad we sometimes think like this&#8230;I am alone most of the time&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: artcargirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>artcargirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 20:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[She was on Good Morning America today and Emeril told her he&#039;d send her a whole new set of pots and pans.  The police took the one she used on the burglar as evidence.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She was on Good Morning America today and Emeril told her he&#8217;d send her a whole new set of pots and pans.  The police took the one she used on the burglar as evidence.</p>
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